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"Inside the digital clock from a Soyuz spacecraft"

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Blogger nynexman4464 said...

I've been waiting for this article to come out since CuriousMarc's video :) Looking forward to seeing it powered up. I've always found it interesting that most spacecraft computing hardware tends to lag commercial stuff by 10-20 years. It makes sense given the amount of time it takes to develop and certify. I've also heard that the designs tend towards older, larger process technology because it's less affected by random gamma rays.

January 17, 2020 at 10:27 AM

Blogger Dogzilla said...

Back in the 1980s, most of the chips in ceramic packages were Mil-Spec. Manufacturers had to commit to producing the product for an extended period of time. The largest market even then was commercial chips in plastic packages, so some of the rationale for not using certain chips was due to availability from the manufacturer in the right package, tested in the right way. Also, these chips had a wider temperature range than commercial devices, that sometimes caused problems.

Now, most chips are totally digital, but then even digital chips often had analog circuitry inside. Also, CMOS didn't go mainstream until the later 1980s, many of the microprocessors in the 1980s were NMOS, which used effectively a resistor for pull-up instead of a transistor.

January 17, 2020 at 3:05 PM

Blogger Spaz said...

Fascinating!

January 17, 2020 at 4:59 PM

Anonymous Mikhail said...

As a Soviet born man I can't stop wondering how the Soviets were able to fly in space and the same time couldn't produce enough toilet paper for every comrade =)

Thanks for the tech porn. Keep it up!

January 18, 2020 at 1:11 AM

Blogger Junior Miranda said...

"Electronic digital clocks (referred to as БЧК BChK) are intended for:
• issuing time information about the current time with a resolution of 1 second;
• crew alert about the occurrence of a given point in time;
• timing of individual operations;
On the front panel are located:
- toggle switch “ВКЛ VKL” - turning on the power of the watch,
- “Работа-коррекция Work-correction” toggle-switch - switching on the working mode of operation or the correction mode of the clock,
- “ЧТВ-ОП ChTV-OP” toggle switch - connection to the upper digital indicators
current time clock (ЧТВ ChTV) or siren (ОП OP);
- button “ПУСК. ОСТАНОВ. СБРОС - START. STOP. RESET ”- manual control
stopwatch
- digital indicators “ЧАС. МИН. СЕК - HOUR. MIN SEC ”- indication of the current time or time the alert was set,
- digital indicators “МИН. СЕК MIN. SEC ”- time indication second measure,
- The “ВВОД ENTER” button is used to enter temporary notification information.
The clock is turned on by moving the toggle switch “ВКЛ ON” to the upper position when the remote control power is on.
The БЧК BChK have an internal autonomous generator and an input for external highly stable pulses.
The stopwatch can work in two modes: manual and automatic.
Automatic control of the stopwatch is used to chronometrify the operating time of the propulsion system and has priority over manual.
Upon the formation of the “Включение СКД SKD Enable” command, a stop, reset and start of the stopwatch occurs.
By the formation of the command “Отключение СКД SKD Shutdown”, in the presence of the sign “Маневр Maneuver”, the stopwatch"

January 18, 2020 at 5:58 AM

Blogger spbnick said...

Wonderful article, I wish I could participate in making this clock work. I'm already learning about history of electronics in my mother country from this, though 😁

January 18, 2020 at 8:24 AM

Anonymous electric chef said...

An interesting article, I will wait to continue.
I want to note that the static indication was applied due to the fact that in the case of multiplexing, the visible brightness of the indicator is significantly reduced. This may require an increase in supply voltage, i.e. installation of keys with an open collector and complications of circuitry, volume and mass of the device. Reliability will also decrease.
As for transitional transformers, they can work not only as an isolation, but also as a way of matching signal levels with other equipment, for example, with the same keys with an open collector.
Also, in on-board equipment it was considered more reliable to use soldered wire harnesses instead of board connectors. It should be understood that this equipment was intended to be used once and was not supposed to be repaired.

January 20, 2020 at 4:42 AM

Anonymous electric chef said...

And about 30 seconds a day .... In accordance with the adopted rules, the documentation indicated the maximum possible error in the entire possible range of operating temperatures, i.e. from -40 to +40 degrees Celsius. In the real temperature range, accuracy was orders of magnitude higher.

January 20, 2020 at 4:55 AM

Anonymous John S. said...

Really interesting stuff! I'm learning new things all the time from your posts, please keep them up.

January 20, 2020 at 7:47 AM

Blogger DHess said...

The junction isolated bipolar process used for TTL was inherently more radiation resistant than the junction isolated CMOS processes (1) which replaced it so it would make a good existing low cost choice for space electronics. Eventually dielectrically isolated processes replaced junction isolated processes where this was important however I do not know that they were ever used at lower levels of integration. I am amused that they upgraded to FAST (Fast Advanced Schottky TTL); it is a good choice and I wish the whole 74xx series had been implemented in it.

Power supply isolation makes perfect sense between chassis and sometimes even between boards. It allows the power and signal grounds to be separated improving noise immunity and preventing some catastrophic failure modes. An isolated switching power supply also means that a pass element short will not apply high voltage to the circuits.

(1) For instance the photocurrent generated by single radiation event can trigger the parasitic SCR in a common junction isolated CMOS process causing catastrophic destruction. I have seen ESD do this to powered HCMOS logic. Junction isolated bipolar logic does not suffer from this particular problem.

January 20, 2020 at 7:47 PM

Anonymous Rusco said...

I love Soviet technology and find this Russian clock amazing. I came a across a MM5314N one chip clock IC you mention. It amazing the difference of technology from USA compared Soviet. Good luck on repairing the clock :)

January 20, 2020 at 11:29 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Soviet components had several problems, mostly with chemical industry lacking behind technologically. Plastic used for packaging was degrading quickly, and tend to crack and loose integrity. Chemicals used in production was uneven in quality, even producing substrate was a problem due to mechanical imprecision. Resulting components and ICs that was produced was uneven in quality and parameter drift, and one used for military was carefully selected (usually manual labor).
In order to compensate for component quality sometimes schematics can be over-engineered, as it may seem.
As for wires used to connects boards instead of back-plane of some kind - this was a common practice for soviet rocket technology - when installed inside a missile, board is subjected to g-force beyond 10g, it bends and traces will come loose and snap. So wiring was used everywhere in soviet military "rocket" electronics, even for connection between individual components.

January 21, 2020 at 12:18 AM

Blogger Andy Preston said...

I used to see a lot of those green resistors in the late 1970s and early 1980s in England. Although usually only for higher wattages.

January 21, 2020 at 3:11 AM

Blogger Alex Suykov said...

"The Soviet diodes have orange rectangular packages" — that's a pretty unusual package for a Soviet diode actually. The large Zener diode would be much more representative, as far as packaging goes. Civilian equivalent for 2Д212 would be КД212. Kinda reminds me of the КТ315 packaging, might be the same kind of plastic.

"chip labels use Λ (Greek L) in place of Л (Cyrillic L)" — actually just a different (more legible) font for Cyrillics. Same with Δ/Д. Try searching "sans serif Cyrillic" in Google images, there will be lots of fonts with Λ- and Δ-like shapes for Л and Д. It's a matter of font style pretty much.

January 21, 2020 at 7:14 AM

Blogger Alex Suykov said...

"The power transistor in the middle of the board is round, lacking the metal flanges of American power transistors" — the flanges were on an optional part that goes over the transistor when it's mounted on a heatsink. Crappy illustration: https://forum.cxem.net/uploads/monthly_2017_09/IMG_20170925_172935.thumb.jpg.504072965c0c45a1a4a98f4dd3e22144.jpg

On this board, there's a thin soldered-in ring in place of the flanged part.

There were Soviet transistors with TO-3 style built-in flanges, too, like КТ838.

January 21, 2020 at 7:46 AM

Anonymous Igor Prakasof said...

@DHess CMOS has still today problems with radiation, especially with single event it can always just randomly turn on or off, this is less or unlikely to happen with Bipolar. You would be amazed how similar modern Space designs are but i cant elaborate on that unfortunately.

January 21, 2020 at 10:26 AM

Anonymous Max Sydorenko said...

Great work and article, as usual, Ken!
Some useful information on Soviet era components could be found here http://www.155la3.ru , although being a museum-like collection, it tends to focus more on oddities, rare parts or unusual packages. Lots of unobtainable elsewhere (ie in reference books) information, which is important because of irregularities and QC issues of Soviet electronics industry. Basically stuff was produced or packaged often (esp in 80s) with an ad-hoc approach rather then following books or standards to the letter.
Would be glad to offer my help in sourcing any missing information for the project, being electronics hobbyist myself and having Russian as my (second) native language.

January 22, 2020 at 3:53 AM

Anonymous Max Sydorenko said...

134ЛБ2 IC hera are packaged into package type 401.14-3 with glass-ceramic substrate (looks similar to plastic but it is not).
Pink substrate on the other chips is definitely ceramics (most likely corundum-based)

January 22, 2020 at 4:11 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Minor additions:
The main name of the chip is 134ΛБ2A. Before this, the type of package or level of reliability (military/space or conventional) was usually indicated. For example, in the first case there might not have been a symbol, in the second it was designated “К” or “КР” for plastic, and “КМ” for ceramic package.
Comparison with US technology part: most of the chips on the shuttle's board photo are dated 1988 and this once again confirms that reliability in space is more important than technology advancement in any country: TTL logic will receive less damage from cosmic particles and radiation and was more reliable at that time than advanced Intel or Motorola processors.

January 22, 2020 at 11:55 AM

Blogger Steve Jurvetson said...

Wow - fantastic! I have one of these clocks as part of the entire flown Soyuz flight deck: https://flic.kr/p/o8yPqN
and I had no idea how complicated it was inside!

I also have the earlier analog design in case you want to take that one apart to compare: https://flic.kr/p/dFYHwE

January 23, 2020 at 3:16 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks Ken for your very detail blog about the Soyuz russian digital clock. I will be taking Electrical Engineering classes hopefully next spring and watching your videos is real inspiration thanks again. Brian M.

January 24, 2020 at 6:24 PM

Blogger RCgoff said...

I'm russian electronic engineer and want to add a few remarks. Actually chip name is not "Δ134 ΛБ2A" but simple 134ЛБ2А. Delta-shaped sign isn't a letter but just a triangle. The triangle sign on Soviet ICs means "handle with care", "sensible to electrostatic discharge". By default all 4000-like CMOS IC had this triangle, and in addition, some TTL chips too.

In 1983 soviet chip industry had several chips for LED, VFD and LCD electronic watches, both single-chip (pMOS) from different vendors (К145ИК1901, К1016ХЛ1) and multi-chip:convenient 3-chip CMOS set (К176ИЕ12, К176 ИЕ13, К176ИД3). Soviet clock chips usually were original. But any of them never had a mil-spec version. You can see dozens of mass-market soviet electronic clocks from 1970s and 1980s here (including guts view):

http://www.leningrad.su/museum/main.php?lang=0

January 29, 2020 at 11:33 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not only Single event upset is a concern with Radiation hardness being a major factor but also there maybe some redundancy inside the box itself. Surely not just one clock? May have some circuits replicated.

January 31, 2020 at 4:53 AM

Blogger Ken Shirriff said...

Anonymous: there is no redundancy inside the clock; it is one clock with no replicated circuits. The only redundancy is the 19-pin connector uses pairs of pins for everything, so there are 9 electrical connections through this connector.

January 31, 2020 at 9:47 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's the quartz on the front panel for? Is the start/stop switch for the stopwatch simply cutting the lines of the quartz instead of halting the oscillator?!

February 2, 2020 at 11:33 PM

Anonymous Terry Kennedy said...

I am surprised at the complexity of this clock when compared with contemporary Soviet "consumer" clocks. I realize that the Soyuz clock has additional functions compared with a wall clock, but the Elektronika 7-06M is implemented with only 6 K176-series ICs. See my blog at https://www.glaver.org/blog/?p=310 for more info. I also have a page on Soviet PDP-11 CPU clones at https://www.glaver.org/blog/?p=959

February 14, 2020 at 8:58 PM

Anonymous Michael Strosche said...

I love vintage technology and especially vintage space electronics. Thanks Ken for the look into this amazing soyuz russian digital clock. Are there any schematics of this clock available or did you made your own during your investigations?

March 9, 2020 at 5:22 AM

Anonymous plaes said...

First link (html syntax in the post) to the list of soviet semiconductor makers is broken.

March 18, 2020 at 11:51 PM

Anonymous Priit Laes said...

Could you please also add the date and product numbers of the boards themselves?

I can see that one board is dated 4th of December 1983. And has product or order code: (after transliteration) GA7.102.426 (74 N).

March 19, 2020 at 12:01 AM

Anonymous Scott Schneeweis said...

THank you for translating the Russian on that clock. I have an identical one integrated as part of a Soyuz TM Spaceship panel and have always been interested in the individual functions of the timer. The clock had an analog predecessor that was utilized in earlier Soyuz spacecraft (the Soyuz-T variant spacecraft was the last to have the analog clock, its successor - the Soyuz TM utilized the digital version).

Scott Schneeweis

April 23, 2020 at 9:25 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi, here is a link of an ISS Zvezda Module image and I noticed a similar looking digital clock in the galley area of the module (up right part of the picture). This version can display Date and Day apparently. "Official" translation of the Cyrillic text is also provided.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fa/ISS-01_Part_of_the_galley_area_on_the_Zvezda_Service_Module.jpg

September 7, 2020 at 2:52 PM

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