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"The Delco Magic line of aerospace computers"

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Blogger wamgo said...

I went to A&P school in the late 1990s and we had a Carousel IV originally out of an airliner that later was in a Beech King Air used for aerial photo mapping. Quite a piece of equipment.

March 20, 2020 at 6:04 PM

Anonymous Chipsa said...

Note on aircraft designations: between the letters at the beginning ("A", "C", "F", "P") and the number, there's a dash. This applies to all designations in the Post-1963 designation system, which is all the aircraft listed in this post. So it should read: "A-7", "C-17A"

March 21, 2020 at 12:23 AM

Blogger Steve Jurvetson said...

666 KIPS. Hmmmm. The Apple-1 sold for $666. Coincidence? ;-)

March 22, 2020 at 1:08 PM

Blogger Olin Sibert said...

You are so right about aerospace computers being left out of the mainstream histories. I wonder whether this is due to security rules--do the computers you've looked at (or their documentation) include any indication of classification levels? Or declassification dates? It would seem unsurprising for a missile guidance computer to be highly classified.

March 22, 2020 at 2:34 PM

Blogger J. Peterson said...

Wow - multiply & divide instructions seem pretty advanced for the mid-60's.

March 22, 2020 at 7:26 PM

Blogger ka1axy said...

Not really -- the CDC Cyber we had at college had hardware floating point multiply and divide, and this was 1974. It was just expensive in terms of logic. If you cold afford the logic, you could have it.

Even the PDP-8 (1965) had multiply and divide:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDP-8#Basic_instructions

March 25, 2020 at 5:39 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi, you say the MAGIC II was used in F-8 (Crusader). From what I know, F-8 was a pure analog fighter, except NASA experiments (one with FBW, from memory). Could you develop about F-8 and MAGIC II ? Congratulations for an amazing work.

July 1, 2020 at 3:14 AM

Blogger Rob Schofield said...

Nice article... I'd be interested to see your comments on the NAA/Autonetics VERDAN flight computer, and it's Marine (SINSS) and later (MARDAN) cousins, including the early ancestor in the HoundDog cruise missile.

October 21, 2020 at 10:03 AM

Anonymous gary smith said...

Maybe confusion with the Magic 2 missile that was used with the F-8 Crusader by the French?

April 4, 2021 at 11:28 AM

Blogger Jeff said...

Around 1978, I worked at the Delco Electronics plant on Hollister west of Storke Road in Goleta, California, manufacturing heavy aluminum boxes like the one shown in the first image. I was told the boxes held "the Titan IMU" (most people still had clear memories of Gemini in those days, so "Titan" didn't require explaining). From your post I deduce that I must have been working on RIVET HAWK, maybe late in the program manufacturing the spares or the like. I was not an engineer at the time, so I have little to add technically except a few odd reflections...one of the manufacturing steps for those boards was to wash them in a dishwasher, an ordinary commercial dishwasher that was installed on the manufacturing floor. And the manufacturing process for the heavy aluminum boxes was the most incredible scut-work: the boxes were "screwed and glued" with some type of metal adhesive, and the metal had to be clean, chemically clean. So each panel of the box was attached to a hoist and then sequentially dipped, first in a vat of hot dilute acid, then in a series of vats of nasty solvents. Anyway, thanks for the nostalgia trip and the brilliant work on this blog.

June 24, 2021 at 9:41 PM

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