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"Repairing the card reader for a 1960s mainframe: cams, relays and a clutch"

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Blogger Cole Johnson said...

Punch card machines are great and all, but I prefer a keyboard and screen for my interface needs. That rate of 13 cards per second is quite impressive compared to the earlier 2 cards per second machines. If the machine could make use of every single punched area to store data, then the reader could read 12480 bits per second (about 1.5 kB) an impressive rate considering storage medium. Magnetic tape was much faster though, which led to the 1401 being used as a paper->tape and tape->paper machine to keep slow IO handling off of a central mainframe.

February 7, 2018 at 3:16 PM

Blogger Richard said...

"The reader has a small amount of logic, but instead of transistorized circuits, the logic is implemented with electromechanical relays."
Logic performed by relays, it is amazing to know how they achieved high speeds using mechanical components.

February 7, 2018 at 4:41 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr Shirriff:*

Great explanation and analysis of reverse engineering of a pretty advanced machine for its time.

Thanks for the work in getting it to work, and the explanation of understanding how its mechanical and electrical systems get out of whack. Almost all of this knowledge has disappeared with the retirement of IBM CE in the late 1970s and 80s.

These machines, despite their idiosyncrasies, lasted for decades, unlike modern appliances.
Your approach is also very informative.

Thanks so much for your work, please communicate when you will work on this machine next. I would love to see it operating!

February 7, 2018 at 4:50 PM

Blogger Unknown said...

The "Dynamic timer" was an indispensable diagnostic tool used on a great number of "unit record" card processing equipment (402-403-407 accounting machines, collators, even early computers such as the IBM 650). We couldn't have done without it!

February 8, 2018 at 8:46 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does the CHM 1401 team have spare units (tape drive, card reader, CPU, etc.) to scavenge for parts to keep the display system operational? If not, why not? Are these units really that rare?

February 14, 2018 at 6:29 AM

Blogger Carl Claunch said...

We do have some spare units (tape drives) otherwise it is just spare parts that have been donated. In some cases we find modern equivalents (drive belts), otherwise we make replacements if we don't have them.

Some parts, such as the SMS logic cards, are available in reasonable numbers but most parts are unobtanium. These systems indeed are quite rare.

February 14, 2018 at 7:47 AM

Anonymous RCL9 said...

Ken, I have been (very) keenly following your work and that of CuriousMarc. If I lived in the SF area then I'd love to have been involved with your Alto restoration work -- fascinating (and better than any soap opera). That work in itself has got me back onto a retro computing kick with my older 1970's and 80's machine builds.

I've had an indirect question at the back of my mind for some time. Your punch card reader blog posting seems to be written as a "technical know-how" for future generations of CHM maintainers. I was wondering what the CHM people have been doing to archive their knowledge and digital asesets for future generations (10, 20, 50, 100 years from now)? I realize that this is a very general question. I'm somewhat concerned about the runtime state of CHM's restored IBM machines once their restoration teams pass away (with you and CuriousMarc being two of the youngest members). The tape drive repair, the faulty power supplies, the cam timing problems, etc. have all been difficult issues to overcome. I guess what I'm asking is how long can these machines be kept running without their current and full restoration teams at hand? I just hope that other younger enthusiasts will come into the mix in coming years and decades to pick up the pace. My father and his historical group have this same issue as most of them are in their 80's with few young people willing to take over their positions or interests.

Please keep up the good work. Your postings + YouTube videos are not falling on deaf ears as people like myself yearn to see these very old machines brought back to life. My own work is squarely focused on preserving near-recent history before it is lost to the winds of time (http://www.PastAndFutureHistory.com). And, due to your work and that of CurousMarc, I plan to put a lot of my own retro-computing history on the site once I get done with some of my current non-computing historical projects.




February 14, 2018 at 1:05 PM

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