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"Inside card sorters: 1920s data processing with punched cards and relays"

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Blogger Unknown said...

The relay shown is a permissive make relay (later model of the wire contact relay)
It may be more appropriate to show a wire contact relay as that's the one used in the 083 sorter.
They came in 4, 6 and 12 positions.

Great write up.

Frank King
kingccca@gmail.com

May 1, 2016 at 9:46 AM

Anonymous Jack said...

Wonderful write up! I always love seeing electro-mechanical machines and how they incorporate both mechanical movements along with primitive logic circuits.

Noticed one small typo in the last sentence of the first paragraph of the section "The power supply". It mentions the "Type 81 power supply" when it probably should say the Type 83.

June 3, 2016 at 10:46 AM

Blogger WildcatMatt said...

Thanks for taking the time to call out the GROUP BY/ORDER BY analogy, it's an interesting reminder that we're doing the same things we did 95 years ago... Just much, much faster.

March 5, 2020 at 6:11 PM

Blogger Unknown said...

Somebody wrote a comment somewhere that I can't find now about somebody dropping a box of punch cards on the floor and trying to fix it up by sorting them but that screwed everything up because the cards had purposely been arranged in the box in random order. That reminded me of the old joke that IBM means: Idiots Become Managers.

I never worked on tab machines (my loss!). But I did get into programming in 1972 when my company's IBM S370/158 had a card reader and that's how everybody's COBOL programs get loaded to be run in the raised floor computer room. I was a programmer trainee. All the other programmers, junior and senior, hand wrote their progrms on "coding sheets" and submitted the sheets to a keypunch operator to punch up (she was an elite keypunch operator, since she keypunched computer programs, not numerical data). I probably had higher education than anybody in the company (Yale), and I not only keypunched my own programs al fresco -- but never used a coding sheet for anything -- but made my own drum cards and I never drew a flow chart either. Reverse snobbery was me; I loved to schmooze with the 3rd shift operators (the "wrecking crew") who slept on the console and played curling with 2314 disk packs (i.e., one of them would shoot a disk pack across the computer room raised floor to his buddy on the other side of the room), and mgmt never knew what they were doing in the night, since they got the production out.

February 11, 2021 at 12:59 AM

Blogger Unknown said...

I left this message earlier, but it disappeared so I am trying again. Thanks!

I'm curious, I found what looks like an IBM cylinder for old punch cards. In the early 1960s I worked for the Girl Scouts of America in St. Louis and I filed big tubs of IBM cards for each troop. I'd like to find out more information about this cylinder. Could someone email me at chiefred71@gmail.com if you might have some information. Thank You!

5/1/2021

May 1, 2021 at 6:53 AM

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