Always a contentious point but being a Scot I would say you are correct.
Others will say different.
Always a debate, in the Regular Army the 1st Foot, which later became the Royal Scots and is now the Royal Regiment of Scotland is officially the oldest being in service since 1633. However the 3rd Foot later the Buffs (East Kent Regiment) now the Princess of Wales Royal Regiment actually dates from 1572 but was an English Regiment in Dutch Service until returning to England in 1665 at the outbreak of the Anglo-Dutch War. Of course the oldest regiment in the Army Reserve, what was the Territorial Army actually outdates both regular regiments. The Honourable Artillery Company. This regiment traces its history back to 1087, but in its current form was established by Henry VIII in 1537 and has been in service ever since forming both infantry and artillery units that have served with distinction in the Boer War, First World War and Second World War and in Bosnia in the 1990s. Its unique in having served on both sides in the English Civil War.
Thanks all! Interesting point Jim, I'll have a read around that. But was not the Buffs a new regiment formed from soldiers expelled from regiments that remained in Dutch service. I think that might disqualify them as the oldest regiment. :-)
Always debatable Simon but I think the Scots have it.
The Dutch fight for independence from Spain in the 1568–1648 Eighty Years' War was supported by Protestants across Europe; the origins of the regiment were Thomas Morgan's Company of Foot, a group of 300 volunteers from the London Trained Bands formed in 1572.[1] In 1586, these English and Scottish volunteer units were brought together in the Anglo-Scots Brigade, which in various formats served in the Dutch military until 1782.[2]
When the Second Anglo-Dutch War started in 1665, the Brigade's units were ordered to swear loyalty to the Stadtholder and those who disobeyed were cashiered. Using his own funds, Sir George Downing, the English ambassador to the Netherlands, raised the Holland Regiment from the starving remnants of those who refused to sign.[3] In 1665, it was known as the 4th (The Holland Maritime) Regiment and by 1668 as the 4th (The Holland) Regiment.[3]
Prince George of Denmark, the regiment's patron from 1689–1708 When the Third Anglo-Dutch War began in 1672, the Duke of Buckingham was authorised to recruit an additional eight companies but the two countries made peace in the February 1674 Treaty of Westminster.[4] These men were incorporated into the Anglo-Scots Dutch Brigade and fought in the 1672-1678 Franco-Dutch War; in November 1688, it accompanied William III to England. It was transferred onto the English military establishment as the "4th The Lord High Admiral's Regiment" and in 1689 became the 3rd (Prince George of Denmark's) Regiment of Foot.[3] During the 1689–1697 Nine Years War, it served in the Low Countries, including the battles of Walcourt, Steenkerque and Landen. It returned to England when the war ended with the 1697 Treaty of Ryswick.[5]
Fantastic work on these. Details are amazing. What make are the figs - you noted you'd do them again with FR, so I'm assuming these are something else?
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Always a contentious point but being a Scot I would say you are correct.
Others will say different.
Always a debate, in the Regular Army the 1st Foot, which later became the Royal Scots and is now the Royal Regiment of Scotland is officially the oldest being in service since 1633. However the 3rd Foot later the Buffs (East Kent Regiment) now the Princess of Wales Royal Regiment actually dates from 1572 but was an English Regiment in Dutch Service until returning to England in 1665 at the outbreak of the Anglo-Dutch War. Of course the oldest regiment in the Army Reserve, what was the Territorial Army actually outdates both regular regiments. The Honourable Artillery Company. This regiment traces its history back to 1087, but in its current form was established by Henry VIII in 1537 and has been in service ever since forming both infantry and artillery units that have served with distinction in the Boer War, First World War and Second World War and in Bosnia in the 1990s. Its unique in having served on both sides in the English Civil War.
https://www.quora.com/Whats-the-oldest-regiment-in-the-British-army
13 January 2022 at 15:14
The red over black primer really makes the red 'pop'! Nice unit.
13 January 2022 at 15:17
I like those a lot!
13 January 2022 at 16:10
Another beautiful looking unit
13 January 2022 at 20:18
Beautiful unit Simon👍
14 January 2022 at 09:43
Thanks all! Interesting point Jim, I'll have a read around that. But was not the Buffs a new regiment formed from soldiers expelled from regiments that remained in Dutch service. I think that might disqualify them as the oldest regiment. :-)
14 January 2022 at 15:10
Always debatable Simon but I think the Scots have it.
The Dutch fight for independence from Spain in the 1568–1648 Eighty Years' War was supported by Protestants across Europe; the origins of the regiment were Thomas Morgan's Company of Foot, a group of 300 volunteers from the London Trained Bands formed in 1572.[1] In 1586, these English and Scottish volunteer units were brought together in the Anglo-Scots Brigade, which in various formats served in the Dutch military until 1782.[2]
When the Second Anglo-Dutch War started in 1665, the Brigade's units were ordered to swear loyalty to the Stadtholder and those who disobeyed were cashiered. Using his own funds, Sir George Downing, the English ambassador to the Netherlands, raised the Holland Regiment from the starving remnants of those who refused to sign.[3] In 1665, it was known as the 4th (The Holland Maritime) Regiment and by 1668 as the 4th (The Holland) Regiment.[3]
Prince George of Denmark, the regiment's patron from 1689–1708
When the Third Anglo-Dutch War began in 1672, the Duke of Buckingham was authorised to recruit an additional eight companies but the two countries made peace in the February 1674 Treaty of Westminster.[4] These men were incorporated into the Anglo-Scots Dutch Brigade and fought in the 1672-1678 Franco-Dutch War; in November 1688, it accompanied William III to England. It was transferred onto the English military establishment as the "4th The Lord High Admiral's Regiment" and in 1689 became the 3rd (Prince George of Denmark's) Regiment of Foot.[3] During the 1689–1697 Nine Years War, it served in the Low Countries, including the battles of Walcourt, Steenkerque and Landen. It returned to England when the war ended with the 1697 Treaty of Ryswick.[5]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffs_(Royal_East_Kent_Regiment)
14 January 2022 at 19:17
Beautiful figures. I love that haughty looking fellow with the spontoon in front, adds a lot of character to the regiment!
16 January 2022 at 02:50
Fantastic work on these. Details are amazing. What make are the figs - you noted you'd do them again with FR, so I'm assuming these are something else?
16 January 2022 at 13:57
Hi FMB, these are all from the ex-Copplestone 1672 range, now sold by NorthStar.
17 January 2022 at 10:33
Stunning!
21 January 2022 at 12:59
Utterly beautiful. But I am NOT going to start another period!
22 January 2022 at 10:34