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"More on cephalopod minds"

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Blogger ProfWeidner said...

Fascinating!

December 12, 2016 at 9:54 PM

Blogger ProfWeidner said...

Fascinating!

December 12, 2016 at 9:54 PM

Anonymous JPL said...

I looked at this post because of its relevance to an interesting film I saw recently, called "Arrival", which features octopus- like alien creatures, called "Heptapods" because of their seven tentacles. And it focuses on the problem of communicating with such creatures in the absence of a common language of translation (a kind of problem which field linguists have developed methods of dealing with). If you haven't seen it I would highly recommend it; I think you would find it interesting.

I would like to make a more substantive comment later (I have to go now), but something you said (or G-S said) early on caught me up: "... a complex nervous system is more of an advantage for predator than prey. (Wolves are more intelligent than elk, after all!)" I don't see how this claim is necessarily the case; faced with a bear, for example, a human would be prey, but a human would probably fare better than some other animal (if foot speed is not a factor). It seems that adaptive intelligence would be just as advantageous on the other end of the hunter- prey relation. The logic of problem- solving would seem like a more promising path to explore.

Then also, G-S does say, "... it also imposes order, top- down, on the huge and complex system that is the octopus body." The presence of the unification structure is important, I think, for the possibility of the individual organism having a "world- view". But the octopus seems to have a "federal" system, to use a governance metaphor.

December 15, 2016 at 8:30 PM

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