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Anonymous Fausto Marques Pinheiro Junior said...

The key word in the following paragraph is "normal": "A system effect is an outcome that derives from the embedded characteristics of incentive and opportunity within a social arrangement that lead normal actors to engage in activity leading to the hypothesized aggregate effect". Normal here, for me, should be understood as a statistical property.

The problem of attributing causal effects to structures is the implicit assumption of some set of properties the median actor must have, or at least an vague idea of a probability distribution for these properties (and different forms of organization can be identified with some implicit assumptions about the pattern of political virtue's distribution, for example). If you change some of those key properties about the actors, the causal effect vanishes, which is quite obvious. Small changes could be more or less disruptive depending on the sensitivity of the structure, but if you face a sudden unexpected change of mean behaviour, any structure would be endangered. I would argue that a systematic collapse (such as the Bronze Age Collapse) is exactly this kind of situation.

In a more extreme case, suppose we create a breed of cats as "intelligent"/rational as Homo Sapiens. If we put them on the same social structure as we are, we'd be delusional to think that our social structure would exert the same of even any meaningul impact upon their behaviour. Intelligence in a totally abstract, disembodied, way is quite far from what we know about how organisms behave. So any structure depends on the organisms for which it is designed or from which it has emerged.

If a structure is built upon knowledge of the mean actor, then we musk ask ourselves why is this the case. What I would argue that by organizing our social environment in such and such ways, what we're doing is finding a way to deal with uncertainty about people's behaviour and random events. Nature too has a way to favour means as a criterion of selection. In a way, we're unconscious - albeit quite incompetent - statisticians. So this structural causal effect, I believe, is the outcome of our strategy to deal with uncertainty and complexity of some set of constraints and stimuli upon single organisms and the randomness of their situation. So, if I'm right, it is not a property of reality, it is - as probability itself - a epistemic tool to deal with uncertainty.

October 21, 2018 at 6:23 PM

Anonymous Fausto Marques Pinheiro Junior said...

"In this respect the system is the salient causal factor rather than the specific properties of the actors -- change the system properties and you will change the social outcome".

I believe we'd agree that in if you change the structure, the different outcome is caused - proximate or not - by the different responses given by the organisms when submitted to a set of constraints and stimuli (which is regulated by the very function of the organism). This is the case in a ceteris paribus condition. So the question is if there is any benefit in distinguishing between proximate (and more salient) ou ulterior cause, right? Or am I misreading, professor? If it is so, I stand that considering the structural effect thesis as epistemically valuable, while not committing to it ontologically, has the added benefit of keeping with the same explanation (and symmetry) if we had the situation of changing some key aspect of the actors. And while I know that it is harder to see a drastic change in actors than it is to see a drastic change in structure, I would argue that taking into account the structure's dynamicity was a huge leap in contemporary sociology... but the same treatment is urgently needed for the actor, for a lot about this dynamic property of the latter is explainable by the very dynamicity of the former.

Actors, individually and as a species, are continually changing, and this very change is of vital importance to the structure, for each structure depends on the reprodution of some key properties at a percentage of the population in order to keep functioning. And this is not simple, because the constraints and stimuli change the evolutionary strategies and has impact on selection, while, more locally, can change the very key properties it needs to maintain. And while some of those actor's changes are up to now quite slow and predictable, we shouldn't take this for granted or forgot that we're in the dark in some of those matters.

Take, for example, space colonization. If we're able to colonize others planets, the effects of radically different environments could shape future generations quite significantly. And if this example sounds too distant, we have a quite important effect happening as we speak: the decreased rate of testosterone in men and the decrease of sperm count and quality. In a way, I believe that we intuitively know about this centrality of the actors... but the unconscious statitician inside us is very strong too. Here in Brazil, historically, a lot of conservative governments (including the one that will - unfortunately - win next sunday's presidential election) promoted the "whitening" of our population. Most of those conservatives follow this intuition, quite wrongly, arguing that for our State-form to work, our population must be more alike europeans, as "blacks" and "indians" are disruptive due to their lack of working ethics or even aesthetically inferiority (the future vice-president recently told some journalists this... belive it or not). While a lot of people on the Left here bring forth the argument that brazilians won't adapt to "capitalism with asian values" because asians have a lot of discipline and are community-oriented such as the chinese (or so they say...), while brazilians aren't known for these traits. I believe you would find these chinese argument very amusing, professer!

Sorry for the long comment. Your text was an excellent read as always, professor, a

October 21, 2018 at 6:23 PM

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