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"MacIntyre and Taylor on the human sciences"

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Blogger Jon Fernquest said...

Thanks for that insightful essay.

"Both MacIntyre and Taylor are highlighting an important point: human actions reflect purposes, beliefs, emotions, meanings, and solidarities that cannot be directly observed. ...So the explanation of human action and practice presupposes some level of interpretation. There is no formula, no universal key to human agency, that permits us to "code" human behavior without the trouble of interpretation."

So all historical sources contain interpretations of what can't be directly observed. This means that the intellectual history of the process of writing history (historiography) in any culture is an important and difficult endeauvour.

The historiographical practices of premodern Burma, for instance, developed during the same period when Burmese was just starting to be used as a written language. They developed out of the first Burmese prose that consisted of interlinear glosses and translations from Pali (nissaya), the language of sacred Buddhist texts transmitted from Sri Lanka (Justin McDaniels now at U Penn has studied nissaya in the Tai context).

An interesting unanswered question is how indigenous Burmese (and Tai) historians were influenced in writing historical narratives by their Pali literature inheritance.

Couched in terms of historical source texts themselves, perhaps the Taylor-MacIntyre insight runs as follows: indigenous chronicle histories are combinations of Rankean "what actually happened" and indigenous historiographical practices, a combination that can never be precisely untangled.

July 17, 2009 at 12:39 AM

Blogger Nick Rowe said...

Peter Winch "The Idea of a Social Science" (if my memory is correct). A book I read many years ago, before switching to Economics.

Does Winch belong in the same group as MacIntyre and Taylor?

Rational choice theory (economics) does provide some sort of interpretation of agents' actions in a way that (say) behavourism (or Marxism?) does not. Should these really be lumped together?

July 17, 2009 at 6:32 AM

Blogger Dan Little said...

Nick,

Thanks for the comments. I'd put Winch in a different category -- more interested in the problem of specifying social practices along the lines of ideas of Wittgenstein's. Here's an earlier posting on this (http://bit.ly/rhpIv). As for your comment about RC theory, Marxism, etc. -- I agree that each of these have some account of the nature of the agent's beliefs and intentions; so they are all agent-based accounts. But each of them work on the assumption that it isn't necessary to do detailed interpretive work on the specific culture in order to apply the paradigm. And I would say that the assumptions about agency that are made by rational choice theory and by Marxist theory are fairly similar.

July 17, 2009 at 7:51 AM

Blogger Dan Little said...

Jon,

Thanks very much for the comments. What you observe is interesting in several ways. For one thing, the hermeneutic approach to the social sciences got its start in the hermeneutic tradition of biblical interpretation -- the challenge of interpreting historical events was interwoven with the challenge of interpreting biblical passages. So that is very parallel to your observations about Burmese prose. And there is a second point: the actors themselves are framing their actions in terms of their readings of the texts -- sometimes. So the historian has the double task of interpreting the actors' interpretations of the texts.

Here's an example: millenarian rebellions in 18th-19th century China (White Lotus Rebellion, Eight Trigrams Rebellion) were stimulated by "folk" understandings of the millenarian content of popular Buddhist teachings. In order for us to understand their choices and actions, we need to have an interpretation of how they understood the religious ideas.

July 17, 2009 at 8:01 AM

Blogger Dominic Burbidge said...

Thanks for this article - very interesting.

October 30, 2013 at 5:23 AM

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