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"What holds a country together?"

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

As a foreigner, I feel that basically the economic growth and wealth of US hold the country together.

The social structure of US has successfully resulted in positive feedback between economic growth and wealth, which reinforce each other. Then this system has stronger and stronger capability to absorb more labor. In selection of importing labor, US has established strong mechanism to gain more intelligent people over other countries. They contribute to reinforce economic growth.

Besides the successful mechanism of economy, the political structure of US has become quite stable. Politics has been a game between two parties for a long time. This might be a path dependence, which could resolve many social conflicts which cannot be resolved by the economic mechanism.

With this kind of economic and political mechanism, it seems that all kinds of social conflicts based on the demographic, religious, and cultural differences are just fluctuations which could not disintegrate this country.

October 13, 2008 at 11:02 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Both (economic growth and the stable political structure) may certainly be part of the picture but neither is sufficient to explain why such diverse people feel connected.

I am also a foreigner. My country of origin is the U.S. but I have lived in France for almost 15 years now. I would describe myself as someone who has successfully integrated into the culture of her adopted country. Nevertheless I continue to feel very much a part of my country of origin. This is in spite of the fact that I have not lived or worked in the US in years, I have limited exposure to the shared culture, and I have very few opportunities to participate in national rituals.

So, the question asked in this blog “What Holds People Together” is one that I have been pondering for a long time. I have yet to come up with a completely satisfactory answer but I recently read and greatly enjoyed Benedict Anderson’s Imagined Communities.

Perhaps I am an American because I believe in and behave as though I am a part of a collective fantasy (an imagined community) called America. ;-)

Victoria Férauge
v_ferauge@yahoo.com

October 21, 2008 at 11:32 AM

Blogger Simon said...

This is a fascinating question and I think that, as a Canadian political scientist, I have some insights into this.

As a foreigner, I feel that basically the economic growth and wealth of US hold the country together.

I don't think this is sufficient; it helps but it is not enough. Consider the total absence of major separatist movements in the United States during the Great Depression.
One thing that has kept the United States together has been the absence of national minorities at the country's founding. Two of the ethnic minorities within the United States (African Americans and Latinos) were not participants in the founding of the country. Thus, their particular political demands had to be negotiated within the constitutional structure of the United States. Moreover, neither have links to a particular territory , hindering secessionist tendencies.

First Nations are a bit of a different matter, but the claims to territory that they have are so small that they cannot sustain secessionist movements. The only two serious secessionist movements at the moment appear to be in Hawaii, a former colony where indigenous links to a specific territory are at their strongest.

Of course, ethnicity is not the only basis to split from or join a state (or nation). Money is often at play and if the citizens of a particular region feel they are being aggrieved (either by being denied resources or because they are subsidizing poor regions) this can fuel secessionist tendencies. I think the key here is to have political institutions flexible enough to respond to the demands of different regions. Isn't this the story of the Civil War and the party system that failed to bridge regional divides at a critical moment.

Finally, I'd like to ask my own hypothetical question. I'm wondering if deep value differences, not just economics, could lead to regional splits. For example, what if the United States Supreme Court overturned Roe V. Wade and recriminalized abortion. Could you really see residents of California, Vermont and Massachusetts tolerating the criminalization of abortion?

I've really wondered about this as a foreigner.

October 28, 2008 at 12:49 AM

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