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"Are there online solutions to rising college costs?"

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Anonymous Alex Blaze said...

Interesting questions and glad to see someone who's not falling all over himself over online education, but I do have a quibble: this has already been possible for a long time but it hasn't happened. I don't mean online instruction, but moving on from the "professor talks at students for 3 hours a week" model. When my mom did her teaching certification in the 70's, and she was already taught that lecturing had gone the way of the dinosaurs and if you just talk at students in class, you're wasting everyone's time.

Lecturing is just a professor creating a set of notes, reading them to the class, the class copies them down passively, and then the students actually comprehend the notes at home. You don't need a computer to store videos to be played to students of the professor reading those notes - you could just assign the notes as reading (you could even have them bound in something called a "book," which existed before the internet). So why haven't professors just assigned reading and then used class time for active learning since the 60's? Some profs do this, but many don't and whatever reason you can think of to justify not doing that would also apply to online education tools.

I'm not saying there's nothing special about online instruction, I'm just saying that these sorts of things could/should have been implemented a generation or two ago and they weren't. So what's different this time around?

Also: I can see how Baumol cost disease can make college tuition rise a bit faster than inflation, but we're not talking about a little bit faster than inflation. In 1986 the cost of private college tuition was around $4000 (adjusted for inflation to 2012 dollars). Now it's around $25,000. There's no way that's cost disease - it grew over 6 times as large after inflation is taken into account! Are professors paid 6 times more now than back then? I can't find historic numbers, but the average professor makes $80K, so they'd have to have made around $13,333 in 1986. i.e., they should have been in poverty if it's all the prof's fault. I doubt that's true.

Unless "faculty" salaries included administration, then we might be onto something....

One last quibble: the performing arts is a bad example of an industry where labor can't be replaced by capital. Beethoven's String Quartet No. 4 took 9 minutes to play to, say, 500 people in the 1800's. To play it to 500,000 people, it took 9000 minutes. Now they can record those 9 minutes (with a machine, i.e. capital) and play it to half a million people with only 9 minutes of playing. People just aren't dependent on live performance for music the way they used to be. It's even worse for theater - making a living in a small theater is impossible today in a way it wasn't a century ago because cinema hadn't taken over. Even stand-up comics like John Stewart and Chris Rock have complained about how TV destroyed the careers of most comedians, and YouTube is making it even work.

So sorry I went off into quibble-land, but this is an important topic and it's nice to see someone who (unlike Thomas Friedman) doesn't think we can just hand kids a link, still get them to fork over $50K/year, and then blame them when they don't succeed.

April 8, 2013 at 7:16 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with your analysis and conclusion, Prof. Little. Unfortunately that secret sauce seems to be labor intensive. I don't know how it would be possible to make a high quality liberal arts education available to every student. The only solution I could think of would be to have student-led seminars. Perhaps professors could serve more of an advisorial role. In terms of office hours, I think many times other individuals can serve the needs students are looking to get met by professors. Maybe colleges could organize student to student office hours. Maybe exceptional seniors could get credit for offering "office hours" to "underclassmen." And maybe graduate students could be better trained to advise undergraduates and pickup some more of the professors' labor burden that way.

April 30, 2013 at 9:43 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with your analysis and conclusion, Prof. Little. Unfortunately that secret sauce seems to be labor intensive. I don't know how it would be possible to make a high quality liberal arts education available to every student. The only solution I could think of would be to have student-led seminars. Perhaps professors could serve more of an advisorial role. In terms of office hours, I think many times other individuals can serve the needs students are looking to get met by professors. Maybe colleges could organize student to student office hours. Maybe exceptional seniors could get credit for offering "office hours" to "underclassmen." And maybe graduate students could be better trained to advise undergraduates and pickup some more of the professors' labor burden that way.

April 30, 2013 at 9:44 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with your analysis and conclusion, Prof. Little. Unfortunately that secret sauce seems to be labor intensive. I don't know how it would be possible to make a high quality liberal arts education available to every student. The only solution I could think of would be to have student-led seminars. Perhaps professors could serve more of an advisorial role. In terms of office hours, I think many times other individuals can serve the needs students are looking to get met by professors. Maybe colleges could organize student to student office hours. Maybe exceptional seniors could get credit for offering "office hours" to "underclassmen." And maybe graduate students could be better trained to advise undergraduates and pickup some more of the professors' labor burden that way.

April 30, 2013 at 9:46 PM

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