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""Moral economy" as a historical social concept"

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Blogger Dan said...

I enjoyed this post thoroughly, and even more so as E.P. Thompson is on my prelim reading list (and Scott is a personal favorite, though I have not yet read the work cited here). Additionally, I am particularly interested in various uses the terms "market" and "economy" and how our understandings of those terms have evolved and multiplied.

One related questions occurs then, more so for Thompson than for Scott - how (if at all) did 18th century peasants understand the distinction between the economic and social/civil/political/howeveryouwanttosplitit spheres? If Mitchell (1998) is to be believed, the development of the economy as a separate object of study is fairly recent, but clearly the outcome of a process begun at least a couple hundred years ago. My question is, to what extent were peasants themselves capable of thinking in terms like 'economy' vs. 'society' and to what extent is that an anachronistic description? Does it matter? Have the words changed but not the guts of the understanding? Or has there been a more fundamental shift that makes the attempt to project those categories backwards perhaps invalid?

July 7, 2008 at 7:03 PM

Blogger Dan Little said...

I think Thompson's reply would include some of these points. First, he might agree that ordinary people in 18th century Britain would not come equipped with a strong conceptual distinction between economy and society. This was part of the conceptual shift that the politician economists were trying to establish -- and of course the distinction is clear in Adam Smith in 1776. But second, Thompson would point out that the "economic" realities were as vividly accessible to ordinary people as the sharp point of a stick. When the price of bread escalated 100% over the course of a few months in the local market, peasants and townspeople immediately registered this economic fact and judged it to be wrong and unjust. And when landlords insist on collecting the fixed land rent even in times of severe dearth, peasants registered this economic fact as well.

Is there an element of moral economy reasoning that underlies current protests about gas prices > $4.00 a gallon?

July 8, 2008 at 11:32 AM

Blogger Joseph Holbrook said...

thanks for posting this, I read your post on the "moral economy" and enjoyed it. I have read Thompson’s essay on the moral economy of the English peasant and working classes, and I just finished Scott’s Weapons of the Weak: Everyday Forms of Peasant Resistance (1987).

In Weapons of the Weak, Scott finds empirical ethnographic evidence that he feels contradicts Gramsci’s concept of hegemony. It seems to me, that Scott’s evidence shows that the poor of Sedaka actually do participate in hegemonic ideology of the traditional, Islamic sort, and that the rich are in a transition from their former Islamic ideological justifications to a capitalist ideology that has not had time to take root among the poor. It seems to me to be a very similar situation to E.P. Thompson’s 18th century scenario. Does this necessarily have to contradict Gramsci who had industrial capitalist society in mind when he wrote about ideological hegemony?

July 20, 2008 at 10:25 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for breaking this essay down ..I found your summary and questions raised extremely helpful!

November 10, 2010 at 5:45 PM

Blogger Jay said...

I know that I am very late to the party here, but in light of the current urban riots in England is anyone studying or writing about a corresponding "moral economy" of urban "peasants" (for lack of a better term). In these cases the riots are not just about food, but all kinds of consumer goods which did not exist in the 18th century. Also what about rebellion against police as guardians of the social order?

August 14, 2011 at 6:58 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

author : David Leonardo Vanegas

this post was interesting for multiple reasons, i would like to underline that one related to the concept of ethnic and its relation with the territory and the properle respect asoociated whit this, usually the economics, just ignore the cultural affairs and the social framework in general , because is easier to standarize the human behaviour, instead of rethink the particular characteristics, due to this fact we live the gaps of stability among the people.

Is time to reshape the current economic models to provide them not only a different point of view, also to encourague them to increase their effectiveness.

March 21, 2019 at 1:45 PM

Blogger NewCreation said...

I am late to this party, but again the author has saved me a lot of time by really explaining this in simple terms. I hate the way some professors try and hide behind big terms and big words such that their theories are hard to grasp. Thank you for such an enlightenment -

August 21, 2020 at 11:48 AM

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