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Blogger timlittle said...

I thought you might be interested in learning about OUR Jewish traditions which embrace the real Christ. We are the Frankist Association of America. One of our members has a new book out:

http://www.amazon.com/Real-Messiah-Throne-Origins-Christianity/dp/1906787123/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1245892844&sr=8-1

These are our teachings passed on through generations. If you can't afford the book you can see the website of one of our teachers - http://www.stephanhuller.blogspot.com.

Shalom

Beth El Jacob Frank

7:34 am, June 26, 2009

Blogger Matt Page said...

hmmm,

That's a touch spammy, but I suppose it is sort of relevant, so, for now, I'll let it stand. It'd be interesting to hear what you thought about some of these films as well though.

Matt

8:28 am, June 26, 2009

Blogger Witlessd said...

Hi Matt. I was particularly impressed with the shot of Cain as a muddy, "bare fork'd animal" crawling through the rocks. No artifice at all here; very raw, very direct.

There are certainly two Cain films in this period:- a Gaumont Film directed by Feuillade, Les Sept Péchés Capitaux: L’Envie; and the Pathé Caïn et Abel, directed by Andreani. I have a Vitagraph film in my notes too, but can't find it in the AFI records or IMDb. Here's the Moving Picture World review that I thought refered to it (11/11/1911): "The character of Abel is presented with suitable simplicity, but it is a question if that of Cain is not a little over-wrought; an excess of acting tends to exaggerate the manner of even the guilty one in a tragedy of this kind. The angel of the flaming sword is good thought [sic], and no profane handling of so delicate a personality is shown... The angels demand of Cain for the whereabouts of his brother, whose dead body throws off its stone covering when told “The voice of thy brother’s blood crieth unto me from the ground.” It is, perhaps, the best seen. It is wise that no attempt was made to interpret the “branding” of Cain; to finish the story with him facing the future under the curse is sufficient." Which sounds to me like an exact description of the Andreani film, even including Cain’s “excess of acting”. (Good to know that a reviewer could recognize that then as now.) But where does that leave the Vitagraph version? Did it exist at all? I'm very doubtful.

9:53 am, June 26, 2009

Blogger Matt Page said...

Yes that shot was good wasn't it. The film had most of the best shots that we saw all day (oh to be able to re-watch a shot at a time).

I'd agree that the review you quoted (thanks for that by the way) must be of this film (either that or the Vitagraph one is a total rip off). I had missed that the rocks flew off just as the "blood cries out to me from the ground" line was spoken.

I suppose the Gaumont film you mention is the French Title for the one I mentioned above? Who knows?

And it was great to get to meet you in person. One of the highlights of the day for me.

Matt

10:57 am, June 26, 2009

Blogger Pastor Timothy D. Lee said...

"[A]nimal skins for costumes seem strangely ill fitting no matter whose version of history you accept."

Actually, according to the Biblical account, I believe animal skins would make sense. I'm not sure whether they looked cave men or not.

According to Genesis 3.7 Adam and Eve sewed garments from fig leaves. After their conversation with the Almighty, He made clothes for them from skins, according to Genesis 3.20.

It is conceivable that humans were still wearing animal skins during the events of Genesis 4.

2:42 pm, June 26, 2009

Blogger Matt Page said...

Thanks Timothy, you are, of course, correct. I totally forgot about that verse! I've amended it above and noted your contribution.

Thanks

Matt

10:19 am, June 29, 2009

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