Thank you for taking my questions at face value, as intended. The only part htat was facetious was the thing about printing money and not telling anyone ( I meant anyone who would steal it - arbitrarily raise prices, interest, etc. ) Kinda like manna from heaven, y'know- previously nonexisent cash that would help people pay. Not a very good joke. As you point out, EVERYTHING gets sucked up in exactly the same way by the system. It's the ultimate double dipping, and the people who do the actual work are asked to make every single sacrifice, from no health care to no retirement, to no wages, to having to borrow to make ends meet, thereby paying out more and more of their labor so somebody else can have it all. And we've been conned into believing that this indebtedness is legitimate, the price of being "just" a worker and not a player. Hmmm. cacky
The ultimate double-dipping; and we've been conned into thinking it's legitimate.
We literally BUY into the system with our trust and our labor.
We must spread the knowledge;
Only the truth can set us free!
Sunday, November 13, 2005
Anonymous said...
Yes, only the truth.
My boyfriend is also on the bus. Neither of us has borrowed a dime in over 12 years. Won't do it. I would like more people know that you don't have to borrow to stay alive, but I know many people have more pressing needs than I have. It'ss truly cruel when your labor isn't even worth what it costs to keep a person alive. However, there are many things people can do to stave off indebtedness. DON'T BUY CRAP YOU DON'T NEED! I know people who make less than I do who actually buy furniture on credit. FURNITURE! Don't get me wrong. I don't live in a yurt, wear burlap, or cut my own hair, but that's by the grace of God anyway. We have choices. cacky
Monday, November 14, 2005
Anonymous said...
The Margrit Kennedy thing is incredible. I've saved it permanently and intend to pass it around. Who knew there were other schemes- ones that work much better. I certainly didn't, though I have by nature resisted our scheme more and more as I have matured. I will read and re-read it and maybe share some of my impressions. Thanks again for turning me on to it and others. Since we met, i haven't had a full day off, but have a couple of them coming up. See ya then! cacky
cacky, congratulations! on discovering that there are alternatives to this system, contrary to what those who benefit from maintaining the status quo would like us to believe.
But, I would draw your attention to the crucial fact that voluntary indebtedness is NOT the most troubling aspect of this gangrenous monetary system.
It's that the central money supply is controlled by private interests who then, believe it or not, lend that money, AT A HIGHER INTEREST than they borrow it, back to the same government under whose authority its issued!
The result being, we the people have no choice but to be in debt because our government provides these bankers with both the shackles and the slaves.
When you return, let's meet at yahoo messenger.
Until then, God bless...
Monday, November 14, 2005
Questions from the comments section by my friend, cacky...
Is there a way to print money and release it into the economy without charging interest on it? Is there a way to introduce more currency without prices going up? Could they, like, not TELL anyone? :) At what level of the economy would "new" money be best introduced? Is there any such thing? Is it tied to a standard, or what? (1) ...way to realease money...without interest? simple answer: yes. Read this PDF.
(2)...introduce more currency without prices going up? simple answer: where there is a will, there is a way.
I can tell you one thing right now, the current way is devoid of logic, devoid of conscience, and it must stop. Any way we do it, minus the interest, would be better than this crap.
(3)not TELL anyone? I'm not sure what you meant. But, keeping people ignorant is the trade secret, ignorance keeps people distracted; KNOWLEDGE sets us free!
(4)at what level..."new" money? Of course the wider the exchange the more quickly the global economy grows; but there is too much danger in centralized points of control which is why the founders of the United States believed so strongly in a decentralized system of government.
(5)is there such thing as "new" money? I am not an economist. But, from my reading I have come to the firm conclusion that for money to be "produced" honestly it MUST be a reflection of the productive capacity of the people who are supposed to use it.
Think about it. Money is meant to facilitate exchange of labor. More labor-->more money needed. Otherwise, the extra capacity will be locked out of the benefits of the system (aka unemployment, idle factories, etc.)
(6) Is it [money] tied to a standard? I don't know what standard they use now. But, it does not matter BECAUSE you cannot trust a crook no matter what standard he says he uses. INTEREST is the mechanism by which they steal labor. Take that out of the equation and ANY realistic standard used will work.
(7) Is there blood on the 4% CDs? Probably. To find out for sure you must look at how they "invest" their money in order to see if the money they make represents added value or exploitation of others' labor. Read this. Exploitation is evil, even when it's done legally.
The malignantly-greedy (those who dont care what others pay to satisfy their greed) are the enemy; their weapon is INTEREST. All we need is a fair monetary system that gives everyone equal access to it through their own LABOR.
---- Cacky, I added a sentence above for clarification that I had not included in the comments page; in case you're wondering where is came from!...:)
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Thank you for taking my questions at face value, as intended. The only part htat was facetious was the thing about printing money and not telling anyone ( I meant anyone who would steal it - arbitrarily raise prices, interest, etc. ) Kinda like manna from heaven, y'know- previously nonexisent cash that would help people pay. Not a very good joke. As you point out, EVERYTHING gets sucked up in exactly the same way by the system. It's the ultimate double dipping, and the people who do the actual work are asked to make every single sacrifice, from no health care to no retirement, to no wages, to having to borrow to make ends meet, thereby paying out more and more of their labor so somebody else can have it all. And we've been conned into believing that this indebtedness is legitimate, the price of being "just" a worker and not a player. Hmmm. cacky
Sunday, November 13, 2005
You are absolutely right!
The ultimate double-dipping; and we've been conned into thinking it's legitimate.
We literally BUY into the system with our trust and our labor.
We must spread the knowledge;
Only the truth can set us free!
Sunday, November 13, 2005
Yes, only the truth.
My boyfriend is also on the bus. Neither of us has borrowed a dime in over 12 years. Won't do it. I would like more people know that you don't have to borrow to stay alive, but I know many people have more pressing needs than I have. It'ss truly cruel when your labor isn't even worth what it costs to keep a person alive. However, there are many things people can do to stave off indebtedness. DON'T BUY CRAP YOU DON'T NEED! I know people who make less than I do who actually buy furniture on credit. FURNITURE! Don't get me wrong. I don't live in a yurt, wear burlap, or cut my own hair, but that's by the grace of God anyway. We have choices. cacky
Monday, November 14, 2005
The Margrit Kennedy thing is incredible. I've saved it permanently and intend to pass it around. Who knew there were other schemes- ones that work much better. I certainly didn't, though I have by nature resisted our scheme more and more as I have matured. I will read and re-read it and maybe share some of my impressions. Thanks again for turning me on to it and others. Since we met, i haven't had a full day off, but have a couple of them coming up. See ya then! cacky
Monday, November 14, 2005
cacky, congratulations! on discovering that there are alternatives to this system, contrary to what those who benefit from maintaining the status quo would like us to believe.
But, I would draw your attention to the crucial fact that voluntary indebtedness is NOT the most troubling aspect of this gangrenous monetary system.
It's that the central money supply is controlled by private interests who then, believe it or not, lend that money, AT A HIGHER INTEREST than they borrow it, back to the same government under whose authority its issued!
The result being, we the people have no choice but to be in debt because our government provides these bankers with both the shackles and the slaves.
When you return, let's meet at yahoo messenger.
Until then, God bless...
Monday, November 14, 2005