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"From the Vaults: Lost Boys and Near Dark"

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Blogger Jordan said...

1) You stole my framegrab! Thief!

2) Here's the thing: 28 Days Later and Dawn of the Dead (2004) change the zombie rules (to varying degrees: 28 Days Later is, technically, not even a zombie movie). But the result is that they're scarier, Everybody has acknowledged this.

But Near Dark changes the rules in a way that removes the entire essence of the vampire concept. I'm not talking about fangs, bats etc. I'm talking about what the change does to your identity, your drives and desires. My friend Barney and I had a long conversation about this recently, trying to pin down why vampires and zombies are scary. The reasons are similar (and I was cribbing heavily from Stephen King's nonfiction Danse Macabre, which is excellent). But the point is that all trust goes away...including self-trust. Both zombie stories and vampire stories employ the trick of fallen comrades returning to the game and playing for the other team, but vampire stories additionally have the element of the vampires remaining cogent and rational (and seductive as hell) but losing their allegiances instantly; their morality flips around as "the hunger" overcomes them. (Speaking of The Hunger, watch Susan Sarandon in that movie for an illustration of the phenomenon I'm discussing). Stephen King's descriptions in 'Salem's Lot are mesmerizing and terrifying, as he portrays people who've been bitten or are facing vampires directly, dealing with what's going on in their heads, and how they aren't in control of what they're doing or what they want. Dracula is filled with this, too. In both of those novels, the girlfriend gets bitten and appears outside the window immediately, begging to be let in to feast.

That's what's frightening about vampires! And Near Dark throws that all out the window. When the guy's dad and sister show up and he's all "Leave them alone; they're my family" and hugging them and etc., (two days after he was first bitten), it's like, "Wha?" He should be immediately diving on their necks, taking advantage of their sentiments! What kind of "vampire story" abandons that idea?

December 13, 2009 2:52 PM

Blogger Jordan said...

To be clear: I'm not saying that they're "not allowed" to change the formula. They can do whatever they want, obviously. I'm saying that the result is not frightening. It's just an action movie.

December 13, 2009 2:58 PM

Blogger Octopunk said...

I totally stole your framegrab! It wasn't on purpose. I forgot you used it when I Googled for something good.

December 13, 2009 3:19 PM

Blogger Jordan said...

Holy shit! I only just noticed that they don't match. I got mine directly off the DVD; obviously somebody else did exactly the same thing and chose the same shot to lift from.

December 13, 2009 3:40 PM

Blogger Octopunk said...

2) You're right that it gives up the scare factor, but bump the question up a notch and it's "do vampires belong in action movies?" To which I would give a resounding yes, because they can be shot without being killed. Arnold's original Terminator murderously approaching someone who is looking bewildered at their own smoking gun is preceded by countless vampires doing the same thing.

And again, at the cost of the specific horror you mention, lots of vampire stories abandon the specific horror you mention. Then they can have the goal of rescuing someone who is on their way to becoming a vampire but isn't there yet. Lost Boys and Fright Night spring to mind, as does Dracula (although that story has it both ways: Lucy turns into a full-blown night leech like those of Salem's Lot while Mina is saved). While it's informally dealt with, I think Caleb never really "enters the club" because he doesn't kill anyone. I've seen that rule applied elsewhere.

As far as I'm concerned, the vampire idea is as mutable as the Gremlins in Gremlins 2. That is, inject them with some random flask labeled DNA and see what happens.

December 13, 2009 3:49 PM

Blogger Jordan said...

Okay, fair enough. I was explicit about my belief that they're allowed to do whatever they want, at the risk of losing the fear factor. I think, in this movie, they lost the fear factor (since I wasn't scared).

December 13, 2009 4:11 PM

Blogger Octopunk said...

What you might be noticing how horror movies in the late 80's started to completely lose their fright powers, with varied results. One result was a slew of slashers that are almost more action than horror, and then lots of flicks that claim horror but are in reality action (like Near Dark) or worse, comedy (like Freddy Krueger in sunglasses in 1988). For a lot of the genre, I don't think that really got fixed until after the 90's.

December 13, 2009 6:52 PM

Blogger Jordan said...

Maybe...but you can't talk me out of my disdain for Near Dark and its inability to scare me. I'm not going to grade on a curve!

December 13, 2009 7:30 PM

Blogger Octopunk said...

Oh, goodness no, that was never my intent. Hate away.

Hey Catfreeek, which part of the ending did you dislike?

December 13, 2009 8:36 PM

Blogger Catfreeek said...

The transfusion ordeal, I thought it was rather ridiculous and completed the films transformation from vampire/action flick to sappy love story. Otherwise I liked the film and thought it was so much edgier than Lost Boys. I think you have to put '80's "horror" in a category all it's own since most of it is non-scary and a good portion of it is actually silly. Near Dark thankfully skipped the heavy comedy element and was a welcomed change at the time.

December 14, 2009 4:36 AM

Blogger Jordan said...

I just realized that this may be the first time that I've reviewed an 80s movie for Horrorthon. I repeat: "God, the Reagan era sucked."

December 14, 2009 7:54 AM

Blogger Jordan said...

Angel Heart was scary! 1987.

December 14, 2009 8:10 AM

Blogger Catfreeek said...

I loved Angel Heart.

December 14, 2009 11:18 AM

Blogger JPX said...

The original elm street was scary!

December 18, 2009 5:59 AM

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