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"How Long Can the U.S. Exploit the Senkakus Sovereignty Crisis It Created?"

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Blogger Michael Turton said...

The JapanFocus piece by Susume is selective and incompetent. I take a quick look here:

http://michaelturton.blogspot.com/2014/02/japanfocus-wrong-origins-of-senkaku-mess.html

and at another awful JapanFocus piece here:

http://michaelturton.blogspot.com/2014/06/japanfocus-forwarding-chinese.html

You're right that the US manipulates the Senkakus mess, but the problem is fundamentally a problem of Chinese imperialism and expansionism, invented in the early 1970s. It would disappear if China gave up its nonsense claims to the Senkakus.

Michael

3:04 PM

Blogger Xinxi said...

Why should the Chinas give up on the Diaoyu Islands/Senkakus? Pre 19th century "historical claims" are obviously nonsense. Only groups like the Koreans and radical Sunni Muslims believe such arguments (Dokdo, Grenada).

The historical record does indicate that China mostly accepted Japanese territorial claims in the past, but, and this seems to me the problem with Mr. Turtons argumentation, this only in the face for Western and Japanese aggression. Okinawa, for example, used to be a tributary state of China. It is reasonable to assume that the Diaoyutai/Senkaku Islands would have become part of China if China wouldn't have been militarily weak.

6:27 AM

Blogger suzannedk said...

The Senduku Islands are vital to the US to keep rageful anger between China and Japan at the boiling point whenever the US wants. US is terrified of the real possible power of Asia and has been doing everything it could to keep the nations fractured apart. Since WW11.

12:16 PM

Blogger suzannedk said...

America has been doing everything it could since WW! to keep tensions between Japan and China at boiling point

12:18 PM

Blogger nepacific said...

"Nonsense" claims. Lol. Michael Turton's position on Diaoyu/Senkaku sounds like the Chinese government talking about its "indisputable" claims in the South China Sea: there is only one way to look at things, mine. But there is in fact a dispute, as the Japanese government has only recently admitted.

I invite Mr. Turton to analyze this piece posted a couple of years ago by Nicholas Kristof in the NYT. It adduces evidence that the islands were not "terra nullius" at the time Japan occupied them in the 19th century, and that the Japanese realized that.

The WW2 agreements among the allies said that outlying islands should not be returned to Japan after the war without the agreement of the US, Britain, and China.

That is likely part of the reason that the US did not specifically grant sovereignty to Japan, as it did in the case of Okinawa. Of course, another reason may have been to keep a source of friction between Japan and China available for future use.

The islands are not that important to anyone. But both sides need to feel they are not being insulted. The process of achieving that is known as "diplomacy," which has become more difficult now as media in both countries (and elsewhere) work to excite chauvinistic feelings in order to gain readers, and reactionaries on both sides do their best to keep the pot boiling.

2:12 PM

Blogger China Hand said...

sorry, Michael, color me unconvinced. As I reference in one of my posts linked above, the geology argument is strongly against Japan, as Japan has apparently acknowledged. Also saw a lot of "China can't have the Senkakus because China can't even have Taiwan" in your discussion, which is tangential to whether Taiwan should get 'em. And for me, the "PRC lusts for the Ryukyu Islands inc. Okinawa" dog does not hunt at all. If anybody has been in the business of outrages against the weaker island nations of the west Pacific, including Taiwan, btw, it's Japan. One might think a Taidu partisans would like to avoid the alienation the Senkakus and their EEZ & potential energy gains to Japan, but whatever. I'm assuming the DPP's Japanese friends assure them that joint development on favorable terms will result if Taiwan cedes its claim. But that's a dubious promise, since the PRC has the determination, resources, and adequate standing at law to block any development it's not involved with. Bottom line: these are unoccupied rocks that by geology and propinquity should be Taiwan's. If Taiwan becomes independent, Japan should cede these islands to Taiwan, not the other way around. In My Opinion!

10:54 AM

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